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Please disregard this post. I am spewing vitriol at all the Harry Potter fandom's stupidity and politics. None of the people I'm fed up with actually read this journal, so I am not attacking you.

Dear HP politickers,
Dude, it's not even funny anymore. I'm just going to have to provoke Snacky's Law and say it: the BNFs in the HP Fandom ALL act like those bitchy popular girls in highschool. The amount of politics in this fandom is disgusting. Really, people, humanity has moved beyond the intrigues of Elizabethan England and Louis XIV's Versailles. It's an f*ing book. It's great to squee over it, some of the fanfic is good, but it is not something anybody's life should revolve around except the writer's. I don't care who said what when about whom to whom and how true any of it was. This is the kind of grudge that eventually leads to wars in real life. Thank Gods y'all aren't fighting over something that matters, like land or human rights. Most of you people are grown women, who should know better than to behave like immature brats. And it honestly makes me ashamed to be a woman. Can you see men doing anything remotely like this? All the infighting, jockying for position, sucking-up-while-saying-nasty-things-about-the-same-person-elsewhere: it's all a load of crap. And frankly I don't even want to know most of you. Other fandoms have been fun. HP fandom needs to be institutionalized. I would actually not be that upset if JKR came down on fanfic if it meant all this b.s. would go away. This is coming from a staunch libertarian who has issues with authority of all sorts, and supports the right to write fanfic no matter what the author thinks of the results (or what I think of the results, either). So, to all those BNFs who feel betrayed or martyred or anything else: I don't give a flying fuck, thank you very much. I have better things to do with my time. I put one toe into this fandom and I was enchanted enough with the really good fanfic to keep that toe in for no less than 14 months. During that time, I started writing several HP fics. But I'm not willing to put up with the politics. If me writing a fic in this fandom automatically puts me on some "side" of an issue that I consider ridiculous, I'm not going to do it. Fuck being Switzerland. I'll be Neptune. Even that isn't far enough away some days. So, I'll be missing out on some good fics, because this fandom really does produce some good authors. My loss. Your loss that you won't get any of my fics, but you don't really care. I'll stick my head back in every once in awhile and see if I can find more good fic without running into the politics again. Gods keep you all. You guys are so incredibly fucked up I'm on the verge of losing faith in humanity.

/bitchiness. *whew* That's out. Therapeutic, really; now I'm not pissed anymore.

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Date: 2003-10-13 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nmalfoy.livejournal.com
Most of you people are grown women, who should know better than to behave like immature brats.

Very good point. One thing I've found rather interesting is that it's the same people wanking over and over again. Don't judge the fandom by the actions of a few very vocal (and very bored) ones.

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Date: 2003-10-14 09:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kerri
I have to agree with Nancy here - I've been in the fandom for a year now and as much as I loff some of the people involved, I have to say that quite often it's the same names. There are alot of other HP fans out there who are quite and putter away in their own little sections of the fandom without even making a peep. :)

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Date: 2003-10-14 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delfeus.livejournal.com
It's also usually the H/D people or the het ones [GT]. At least I haven't seen any Snarry wanks...

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Date: 2003-10-14 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zana16.livejournal.com
I'm wondering whether that says more about us as Snarry fans or about them as nonSnarry fans. ;)

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Date: 2003-10-14 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delfeus.livejournal.com
Indeed. :D

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Date: 2003-10-13 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finalrequiem.livejournal.com
Did you see my post in my journal? Click on all the big NO's. After you die from being pissed off and annoyed to where it leads to, you'll add that link to your rant here.

;)

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Date: 2003-10-13 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zana16.livejournal.com
The sad thing is that I really wish they offered that class here. They don't even have a Philosophy of Buffy course (damn them trying to keep up to Ivy League standards). In fact, at this point I would be willing to take a class called Counting the Freckles on McGonnagel's Toes to escape from Contemporary Political Theory.

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Date: 2003-10-13 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paper-crystals.livejournal.com
Brown actually has a course on centering around either Neil Stephenson or cyberpunk. I'd talk to the film department about a Philosophy of Buffy/Philosophy of Matrix/Philosophy of Contemparary SF Films course and now that you and P are ok with each other I'm sure she'd be interested as well.

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Date: 2003-10-13 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zana16.livejournal.com
Philosophy of the Matrix boils down to one whole page of Descartes; total ripoff. And they don't even credit him. Neil Stephenson, on the other hand.... the anti-1984 vision.

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Date: 2003-10-13 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paper-crystals.livejournal.com
I haven't read Decartes(adds to booklist). Having read 1984 and Snow Crash how is Snow Crash anti 1984? Could you give me an example?

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Date: 2003-10-14 05:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rhipowered.livejournal.com
In an abstract, seeing as I need to reread the book:
Global network, overcommercialization, yet individuality. With the Snow Crash meme, the faction is trying to make everyone think the same way and have the same set of processes--to rewrite the language to their own controlling ends.
The parallels are hard to explain.

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Date: 2003-10-14 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zana16.livejournal.com
I see 1984 as an illustration of the extremes that a communist system would take us to.

The economic system in Snow Crash isn't the main feature of the book by any means. But it is an illustration of what capitalism would be like if there were no system of laws to contain it. Everything is for sale: safety, spy intelligence, allegiance, etc. You can be safe if you can afford the neighborhoods that have their own private armies. The Mafia is the most coherent social structure around, and the rest of society is still based on self-interest (to the extremes of theft and violation of human rights and human dignity) that isn't as well-structured and well-policed as the Mafia. The police state and the welfare state are no longer political entities, since the political nation-state no longer exists, so you have to buy these services.... Nmm, this is all mixed up in my brain and isn't coming out in any kind of order. Hope you can see through the haze.

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Date: 2003-10-13 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com
WORD. -_-

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Date: 2003-10-14 10:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cleverthylacine
I've written fics, including a pretty well-known one, without getting involved. You can stay clear of it. It's not hard.

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Date: 2003-10-14 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xandria.livejournal.com
I'd like to add you as a friend. I really enjoyed this post. Very well said.

But I also agree with the others above: You can find non wanky areas. Even with LJ, you learn quickly how to skim over the wanky stuff by speed reading the first paragraph in a post of a person who is given to wank regularly.

Best to you.

Xan

PS: Pardon any incoherance (I'm just getting over a cold right now)

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